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Finally got round to watching part two of the Art Of Gothic on BBC 4 over the weekend.

We come to the period when Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein, and Thomas De Quincy wrote Confessions Of An English Opium Eater. Charles Dickens was mentioned , and in particular, his Bleak House, n which he depicts London as being that sordid Gothic underbelly of the respectable into the sewers of the debauched, mad and criminal.

Nothing is more Gothic than the Joseph Wright of Derby painting "An Experiment on a Bird in the Air Pump (1768 oil-painting)".

airpump

A travelling scientist is shown demonstrating the formation of a vacuum by withdrawing air from a flask containing a white cockatoo, though common birds like sparrows would normally have been used. Air pumps were developed in the 17th century and were relatively familiar by Wright's day. The artist's subject is not scientific invention, but a human drama in a night-time setting lit by moonlight and candles.

The bird will die if the demonstrator continues to deprive it of oxygen, and Wright leaves us in doubt as to whether or not the cockatoo will be reprieved. The painting reveals a wide range of individual reactions, from the frightened children, through the reflective philosopher, the excited interest of the youth on the left, to the indifferent young lovers concerned only with each other.

The figures are dramatically lit by a single candle, while in the window the moon appears. On the table in front of the candle is a glass containing a skull,a momento mori of the passing of time, and the direction that life takes. I also think that the scientist looks more like a magi conjuring up tricks , casting a spell, and that sometimes science can lead us to dark places as much as horror does. That is why this painting is Gothic.

Date: 2014-11-02 04:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] al-zorra.livejournal.com
19th century specialist, Jenny Uglow, offers her personal reaction to this painting here:

http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/joseph-wright-of-derby-an-experiment-on-a-bird-in-the-air-pump

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Date: 2014-11-02 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
this sounds spellbinding!

would this include the likes of goya's war depictions, do you think? or rembrandt's anatomy lesson?
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going to try look it up online. tell me more..

here is a larger image of joseph wright's painting

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/An_Experiment_on_a_Bird_in_an_Air_Pump_by_Joseph_Wright_of_Derby%2C_1768.jpg

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Date: 2014-11-02 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
what does the event of the painting speak of? free will? death? love in the midst of strife? a young boy opens a curtain to let the full moon decide, while the family waits for the feather to drop.. to which the lovers seem oblivious, yet are more likely central to the theme since they embody hope for new life in an otherwise ..

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Date: 2014-11-03 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com
Isn't the boy opening the door of the birdcage? (I'm hoping it's to return the revived cockatoo.)

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Date: 2014-11-04 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
oh yes, i see it now in the shadows with his poker on the bird cage door, whatever can that signify?

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Date: 2014-11-06 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com
:D Well, I imagine that bird-cage goes with bird, and that it's where the cockatoo has been taken from, prior to the demonstration.
I also imagine that the bird travels with the demonstrator (since nobody seems to be showing the degree of concern one would imagine if a household pet were being destroyed before the household's very eyes) and that therefore the cage will be used to rehouse the revived bird, as soon as its air-supply is restored. And the boy (the demonstrator's assistant) is getting ready for the return of the bird.
(What a horrible way to treat a cockatoo!)

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Date: 2014-11-07 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
yes, i get it. absolutely! i forgot about the bird..

Re: gothic

Date: 2014-11-02 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Actually no Goya or Rembrandt as the series is about British Gothic.

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Date: 2014-11-02 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
aah.. so what are the origins of that?

London as being that sordid Gothic underbelly of the respectable into the sewers of the debauched, mad and criminal

do you think it fallout of the industrial revolution and change?

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Date: 2014-11-02 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Certainly , a fallout from the "dark satanic mills" and as Dickens noted, you do not need the supernatural to invoke the Gothic. London at the time was the real Gothic of the miserable lives of the ordinary citizen.
Edited Date: 2014-11-02 07:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-11-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigshitpoet.livejournal.com
so this whole nwo thing began way back then..

the "dark satanic mills" of Dickens

Date: 2014-11-02 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ba1126.livejournal.com
very interesting!! I don't believe I've ever heard of this painting before.

Date: 2014-11-02 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
Confessions Of An English Opium Eater
That sounds like it could be really good or really dull. :o
Hugs, Jon

Date: 2014-11-03 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
It is a tour de force of a book.
Edited Date: 2014-11-03 02:03 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-11-03 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
I will have to add that to my check out list. :)

Date: 2014-11-03 01:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] delphipsmith
Poor bird. This looks like a great series, and I'm thrilled to see that even here across the pond I can watch it via the BBC website -- yay interwebz!

Date: 2014-11-03 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
The third part of it is Monday night.

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