Date: 2016-03-16 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wantedonvoyage.livejournal.com
I have to read that, but New York's are gone, too.

Date: 2016-03-16 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robby.livejournal.com
In my experience, it's the harsher attitude towards driving with a few drinks under your belt.

Date: 2016-03-17 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wantedonvoyage.livejournal.com
Makes sense but doesn't explain NYC, where very few people would be driving there. Yet we lost Roxy, Palladium, Tunnel, Studio 54, Limelight, etc. There's really nothing of that scale anymore.

Date: 2016-03-17 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robby.livejournal.com
Yes, I am of the suburban car culture, and remember when people could drink and drive. Nobody was very responsible, back in the day.

Date: 2016-03-17 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wantedonvoyage.livejournal.com
A bunch of small local bars closed around here at the time when they banned indoor smoking, including all three of the ones I can walk to. You would see all (three of) the patrons, plus the bartender, out on the sidewalk and I guess at some point someone said "You know what? We can just do this in my basement."

Interestingly two of the three are now open again with different owners, and they're both busier than ever. I think in the intervening years, either more people quit smoking or there is a new generation that never expected to be able to do so in a bar.

Date: 2016-03-17 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
Not that I was part of the nightclub scene, new generations are really missing out.
Hugs, Jon

Date: 2016-03-17 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
Ummm...lessee: no one has any money anymore to spend on cover-charge, over-priced drinks and expensive outfits. Also, no one want to get caught out drunk in public, drunk while driving, or drunk while female. The last especially. The club scene is famous for rape (either by the woman actually thinking - as she should - that is is okay to BE a woman and get drunk and not expect someone to be a fucking asshole; or by drugging when they don't drink fast enough) and theft. No one can afford the damned CLUBS, much less the bullshit that can happen in them...

Add the smoking ban and bars everywhere (not just clubs) started closing. When people got told you could get hammered, but you can't get your nicotine fix without going outside (which some clubs would frown on and be twitchy about letting you back in), people realized 'screw this, it is cheaper to buy alchohol and bring it home and be comfortable, smoke and hang out with people I trust'.

*HUGS*
Edited Date: 2016-03-17 07:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-03-17 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
True enough and hence one reason the gig at the Northern Lights is no longer available (for now).

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