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Jun. 12th, 2014 10:43 am
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Seems especially fitting in the wake of another gun tragedy.

Date: 2014-06-12 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nimnod.livejournal.com
LJ really needs a like button for when you have nothing intelligent to add but just generally approve.

Date: 2014-06-12 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loganberrybunny.livejournal.com
I rather like the idea of a "Generally Approve" button. So much more refined than "+1" or "Like".

Date: 2014-06-12 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msstacy13.livejournal.com
A LIKE userpic might do.
Maybe with appropriate emoticon.

Date: 2014-06-12 03:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-12 12:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siduri1959
Sadly, spot on...

Date: 2014-06-12 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
A clue, they needz one...........

Date: 2014-06-12 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicghoul.livejournal.com
Sad, but true.

Date: 2014-06-12 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] postingwhore.livejournal.com
What's happened now?

Date: 2014-06-12 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msstacy13.livejournal.com
I don't know,
but I'm sure it's nothing that hasn't happened a dozen times already this year.
(She remarked sadly.)

Date: 2014-06-12 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
Sigh. Were that it was this simplistic. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicides, unrelated to anyone else's death. Auto deaths still vastly outnumber homicide by gun and the amount of those deaths that are suicides is nominal. Drug overdoses still kill the most people who weren't planning on leaving that day....
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Date: 2014-06-12 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
*nods* Exactly. And it's this sort of willfulness that makes coming to the table to have a clear and concise conversation so difficult. One of my besties in high school was killed in a hunting accident. I had another bestie in college murdered by shotgun-wielding ex-bf. I know about gun violence...but this cartoon, this half-footed philosophy does nothing. At all.

Date: 2014-06-12 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Well i have a friend , a female friend, from Texas , and lived in Utah for a while, but now she lives here in Faversham , and she was fed up with the whole gun thing over there. Hence she partially prompted me to do this post.

Date: 2014-06-12 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
I have no problem with people taking stands, but this cartoon is just really simplistic while still being slightly hysterical. Besides which, the 2nd Amendment is not about tyranny.

Is she equally fed up with drunk drivers? And people who wield knives? And drug overdoses?

Date: 2014-06-12 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
I'm a military historian by trade and the 'true realities of gun use' are than guns are for killing things.

Dave and I live in a country with very strict gun laws- some of the strictest in the world- and there is very little gun crime here to the extent that even a single shooting, let alone a mass shooting, is huge, front page news and it was a mass shooting of kids in Dunblane, Scotland some years back that created our present gun laws.

Date: 2014-06-12 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
Well, of course guns are for killing things. ?

I lived in the UK for five years. Violence against the unsuspecting innocent takes all manner and shape in regards to weaponry.

Date: 2014-06-13 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
But that's my point really- I suspect that an awful lot of people see them as something to make them feel big and powerful. I'm a soldier's daughter and know all too much of what gunpowder weapons can do to the human body.

'Violence against the unsuspecting innocent takes all manner and shape'


True.

Where there are no guns, there is knife crime.........

Date: 2014-06-12 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quirkytizzy.livejournal.com
Well, sadly, we Americans just ain't had enough kids killed yet. Maybe we're getting there. Another few hundred kids slaughtered should do the trick, maybe.

/sarcasm

Yeah, I'm in favor of what you guys did. No joke.

Date: 2014-06-13 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
I'm also a Quaker and therefore a pacifist, so this stuff just saddens me deeply.

Date: 2014-06-12 08:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-12 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotclaws.livejournal.com
Car deaths enrage me.99% are caused by drunk,shitty or stupid drivers.There's no excuse for it.

Date: 2014-06-12 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleodswean.livejournal.com
I know it. Three months to the day before my bestie mentioned above was killed by a gun accident/stupidity he and I were at the funeral of another friend who was killed with her sister, three of her cousins and a family of three in another car by a drunk driver who broke his nose on the steering wheel, left the carnage, went home and slept off his headache. This was before MADD and he received a light sentence.

Date: 2014-06-12 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
UGH...yeah.

*Sigh*

I just...yeah.

Date: 2014-06-12 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
That is the sad truth in this country. :(
Hugs, Jon

Date: 2014-06-12 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ba1126.livejournal.com
Sadly true.

Date: 2014-06-12 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brynhilda.livejournal.com
oh dear, so true...

Date: 2014-06-12 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
An indictment i fear.

Date: 2014-06-12 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crypticwyrd.livejournal.com
That is about the reality of it. lol

Date: 2014-06-13 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nutmeg3.livejournal.com
So sadly true.

Date: 2014-06-13 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maxauburn.livejournal.com
Huge seafaring ships were not equipped with enough lifeboats for ALL until Titanic sank- over 1,500 had to die before that lifeboat rule was enforced.

Sadly, many STILL have to die before anything real might be done to help prevent more mass shootings. Assuming that something can actually be done to prevent future shootings....

Date: 2014-06-13 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Tighter gun laws would be a good start.

Date: 2014-06-14 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaishin108.livejournal.com
I detest guns and each thing like this makes me want to become an ex-pat :-(

Date: 2014-06-14 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabuldur.livejournal.com
I actually live in a country with gun laws and I like it. I think that if there is an argument and there is a gun around the injuries or worse are far more likely. Also, a lot of these gun deaths are caused by mental illness...another reason for there to be less guns lying about.

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